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batye
batye
5/1/2018 1:01:22 AM
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@Joe Stanganelli good point thanks for the idea... I use my old hotmail account before I keep it as spam collector :) for all good offers... 

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batye
batye
4/5/2018 1:03:53 AM
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@Joe Stanganelli yes I could not agree more in Europe it more sleepy so to say 

while in USA everyone is awake and fighting for American dream and part of the pie 

hopping freedoms get protected by founding rules of the land... 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/4/2018 7:16:26 PM
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@batye: I don't think it's a matter of catching up so much as it is a matter of fundamentally different priorities.

Many people in Europe are old enough to have been exposed first-hand to Communist regimes and secret police (to say nothing of the Third Reich). Consequently, privacy is of enormous concern to Europeans and the sensibilities of their shared cultural memory. Moreover, because speech has never been truly free in most (all?) European nations, it's easy to prioritize privacy over freedom concerns (as in, for example, the right to be forgotten).

Contrast the United States, which is an outrageously young developed nation (let alone young for a superpower!), and did not have the same 20th-century problems as its friends across the point. The US has a completely different cultural memory, rooted in the experiences of British colonists who were oppressed by George III's government. For them (and, now, for us present-day Americans) privacy was definitely a concern, but free speech, free press, free assembly, freedom of and from religion, and other rights were far more important -- and thus embodied within our Constitution. There are things that it is perfectly legal to say, print, or otherwise communicate in the US (even if those things are offensive or appalling to a supermajority of sensibilities) that you would be fined and/or jailed for so doing in Europe. Moreover

To wit, in both its laws and its culture, the US has privacy deprioritized when it comes to speech and communication -- which includes the collection and sharing of user/customer/other information. While US government could certainly do more to protect consumers while still being in line with the Constitution and American cultural sensibilities, I don't consider it correct to say the US is behind in privacy when compared to Europe any more than it would be correct to say that elephants are behind in swimming ability when compared to fish. We're talking about two different environments (globalism or no).

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/4/2018 7:03:05 PM
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@batye: I commonly use guerrillamail.com for disposable, insta-email addresses. Unfortunately, a lot of people are on to the guerrillamail domains. Consequently, when I want to download a whitepaper and they demand an email address, oftentimes those email addresses don't work.

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batye
batye
4/2/2018 9:20:04 PM
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@TaimoorZubair  interesting question I think the way I think about it... I think not everything will get delited as this info still have monetary value to the Co. even the little ones  like or dislike preferences.. 

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batye
batye
4/2/2018 9:15:21 PM
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@Joe Stanganelli in europe they do have many good laws to protect consumers in North America it takes time to catch up... the way I see it... 

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batye
batye
4/2/2018 6:20:04 PM
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@Joe Stanganelli interesting idea thanks for sharing I use before mail.ru services as disposible emails until everything got sold out to hackers... 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
4/2/2018 1:21:40 PM
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@batye: The only way to avoid it (to the best extent possible)... Not getting sucked in to begin with. And using disposable email services (so FB and other social networks can't get your information as they siphon your friends' contacts).

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
3/31/2018 11:15:32 PM
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@Taimoor: FB certainly has a lot of information beyond your ad profile. It depends upon your jurisdiction's laws. EU folks may be able to leverage the EU's right to be forgotten. For us in the US, however, there's not a lot you can do.*

*Not legal advice

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batye
batye
3/31/2018 6:19:29 PM
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@Joe interesting point for me what happening with FB it new reality we living in ... and the way I see it it a future where we have no say whom where and how our data get used and misused and by whom... or the highest bidder... sad reality and scary the way I see it... 

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