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mhhfive
mhhfive
1/8/2019 11:17:47 AM
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Re: 5G and health risks
The MVNO networks are pretty far from local loop unbundling -- since the MVNOs are capped by the underlying operator and can't directly compete against the big4 wireless carriers in the US. MVNOs can certainly innovate with novel kinds of services, but it's not the same kind of direct competition that local loop unbundling allows.

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azpavlovic
azpavlovic
1/8/2019 8:01:48 AM
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Re: 5G and health risks
@mhhfive - Isn't the array of MVNO options (from don't own anything = flanker brand like Virgin Mobile) to own parts of the infrastructure such an "unbundling model"? 

The other option is network slicing where such "unbundling" could go across core, transport and RAN (and even down to spectrum slicing).

Both of these can result in more efficient and/or economical use of spectrum and wireless domain. 

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mhhfive
mhhfive
1/7/2019 2:03:24 AM
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Re: 5G and health risks
As we see 5G rolling out, it strikes me as a bit odd that there's no analogy of "local loop unbundling" for wireless tech. Not that every tech has to have an analogy in another domain, but it seems like airwaves could be more efficiently used if ownership were shared and usage was metered differently than it currently is....

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azpavlovic
azpavlovic
1/2/2019 9:55:50 AM
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Re: 5G and health risks
@Joe: Not sure I agree with you. Partly because I work in a company where CSR and ethics are really seen as very important (not just for "compliance and PR" reasons). Partly because I live in the country where some operators (their CEOs actually) have a relentless CSR focus (with tangible effects) that is recognized at the top level (see the recent list of Order of Canada recipients).

2018 has been a paramount year that showed us what happens when big corporations fail to recognize the impact of corporate social responsibility (and international responsibility) and the importance of ethical business conduct. 

However, we digress: my article here focuses on one aspect of 5G security - the one related to the security of network and communications running across it. It is one element of the total solution, and we need a solid framework and all components working in "harmony" to properly address security in the context of 5G. 

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Michelle
Michelle
12/31/2018 11:16:18 PM
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Re: 5G and health risks
Perfectly explained! Compliance is important for PR for sure. 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
12/31/2018 11:11:59 PM
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Re: 5G and health risks
@Alex: I think you give the private sector a bit too much credit here.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a capitalist. But most "ethics" and "social responsibility" departments/initiatives exist for compliance and PR reasons. Bottom line is everything.

Which I have no problem with; competing self interests drive the world, after all. But it's important to remember these practicalities. It doesn't mean that an executive or a board genuinely doesn't care about certain of these things, but they still have to be accounted for in the context of the usual ulterior motives.

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
12/31/2018 11:08:09 PM
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Re: 5G and health risks
@Taimoor: It won't be gov't -- or, at least, it won't be any gov't agency with any teeth. The military and other government agencies have already determined that 5G and cellular networks in general are vital to national security, the economy, and other important interests. No government-created or government-funded report with any real juice behind it is going to naysay 5G because of the possibility of heightened health risks.

As for NGOs -- which ones? A lot of non-profits (academia in particular) get their funding from government. And the private sector has too much money at stake to risk a releasing a finding detrimental to their interests.

With all of these perverse funding incentives and disincentives (particularly in the "publish or perish" atmosphere of the field), modern science is a farce.

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azpavlovic
azpavlovic
12/31/2018 8:53:15 AM
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Re: 5G and health risks
@Taimoor We digress, but let me answer.

I disagree on the last statemement: safety is of extreme importance to everyone and many privately and publicly owned entities (vendors, operators) are vitaly concerned (after all, all employees are also citizens and future users of all these technologies). Safety is very high on their ethical and corporate social responsibility list.

But I agree that public organizations (and parts of governments) focused on health and safety should lead the research and regulation. 

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TaimoorZubair
TaimoorZubair
12/30/2018 2:57:37 PM
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Re: 5G and health risks
"The problem with safety these days (like with anything else) is finding credible sources and scentific, unbiased information. "

@azpavlovic: Do you think there's not enough investment being done to fund the research behind the safety side? If there's anyone who should be funding the research, it has to be NGOs or the government itself. Private companies don't really have an interest to invest a dime behind it.

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azpavlovic
azpavlovic
12/30/2018 8:17:04 AM
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Re: 5G and health risks
@Taimoor - Here I focus on 5G security. Safety (and human safety in particular) is a major concern already. We need more research (a lot of it is happening as we speak), but also a lot more coordination and joint involvement by smart cities, national (spectrum) regulators and all healthcare stakeholders. With multiplication of spectrum bands, increased number of licence holders and operators, we may need to introduce new limits (e.g., aggregate radiation levels for a specific geo-zone).

The problem with safety these days (like with anything else) is finding credible sources and scentific, unbiased information. But, it exists. 

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