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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
1/31/2019 5:00:18 PM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
It's like saying that your house is secure because you lock the door. If there is natural disaster your locked doors are useless. And if your computer and hard disk were in that house they will also be gone together with your data. 

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
1/31/2019 4:37:22 PM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
Taimoor -- As I said, it's matter of preference since risk there will always be no matter which option you choose. If the physical data center where your data is stored blows up there is nothing left no matter how much you protected your precious physical access. Everything will be gone, the data center and all your data. 

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batye
batye
1/31/2019 4:13:44 PM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
@TaimoorZubair  I could not agree more in security field, nothing is 100% secure, or will it ever be... 

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TaimoorZubair
TaimoorZubair
1/31/2019 2:25:05 PM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
@Susan: I agree with the fact that there's no such thing as completely foolproof and that every type of arrangement has its own security risks. Even with on premise, as you mentioned, the risks are there. However, it is believe that in case of an offline on-premise server or a system, you only need to guard and prevent physical access to it. When something goes on the cloud, the security risks multiply because preventing physical access is not possible and control is entirely virtual. This becomes far more dangerous.

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
1/31/2019 2:18:10 PM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
Taimoor -- On premise can have different risks, which is what I meant. It's the same like when people think that keeping their data in their hard drive or external hard drive it's safer than in the cloud. The risks are different but risks exist nevertheless. A hard drive can get damaged, stolen, lost, or something else. It's simply a matter of preference and how you feel more confortable about where you keep your data. 

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TaimoorZubair
TaimoorZubair
1/31/2019 2:10:57 PM
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Re: Connnect smart
"The real lesson here is being careful of what you connect -- and audit your connections on the network. It's an especially important lesson these days too because of the proliferation of woefully unsecured IoT devices."

@Joe: Also, what is more alarming here is the fact that even if the DB was exposed on the internet through an IP, there were no credentials controlling the access to it. In most cases, at the very basic level you do need some kind of an access control on the database itself even if its an offline system.

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TaimoorZubair
TaimoorZubair
1/31/2019 2:03:26 PM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
@Susan: On premise becomes equally risky as the cloud once it becomes part of the internet. The reason people consider on premise to be more secure is because the data is usually offline. Technically, once it is exposed on the internet, it doesn't make any difference at all.

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
1/31/2019 6:55:25 AM
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Re: On-premise data is vulnerable, too
Joe: Of course. But we also have to consider that getting someone's fingerprints --with tape or not tape-- is limited to those who actually want a certain person's finsgerprints to get access to something equally specific. With this I want to say that this specific type of risk could be limited to certain people and not to the whole population. This is also why I always say that there is a need for biometric security to improve and to do it fast. It's less likely that someone can get your fingerprints, your iris, and your voice than just one of those three. You could add a personal code to that if you want even more security. 

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Susan Fourtané
Susan Fourtané
1/31/2019 6:45:34 AM
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Re: Connnect smart
Lol, Joe. Yes, we're in basic agreement. :) 

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Joe Stanganelli
Joe Stanganelli
1/29/2019 11:47:30 PM
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Re: Connnect smart
@Susan: Oh, I agree and I'm not disputing that at all. Excellent point. But it's simply about basic security hygiene. Just as you would advise someone to not be engrossed in their phone while walking around at night in a dangerous neighborhood, or to look both ways before crossing the street, or any number of other basic "IRL" safety tips. It's not a fault or a blame issue, but that's no reason to not consider personal safety/security.

So it seems we're in basic agreement.

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